said that you're the hero in this. do you feel that? no. not at all. and i felt like, you know what? that was the right thing to do. being a hero, nah. they are the hero, the one out there every day, not me. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm andrea canning. thanks for watching. >> this sunday, up in the air, air air traffic controllers lose contact with pilots at one of the nation's busiest airports, raising new fears about aviation safety ahead of the busy summer travel season. >> if we don't actually accomplish the mission that we're announcing today you will see newark's not just in newark. you will see newarks in other parts of the country.

>> how safe is it to fly right now? i'll talk to transportation secretary sean duffy. plus tariff uncertainty. the president announces the framework of a trade deal with the uk and u.s. talks begin with the chinese. the fed warns the global trade war could trigger a higher risk of inflation and job losses. >> they have to sign deals with us. >> uncertainty about how the economy is extremely elevated. >> but is president trump already walking down his tough tariffs on china? i'll speak to republican senator john barrasso of wyoming and no regrets. former president biden says he believes the outcome of the 2024 race wouldn't have changed had he dropped out earlier. >> i don't think it would have mattered. >> what lessons have democrats learned? >> i'll speak with amy klobuchar of minnesota, plus an american pope. the world reacts to the new

leader of the catholic church with chicago roots. joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news washington managinged tor carol lee, republican strategist matt gorman, neera tanden with the center for american progress and nbc news senior national political reporter sahir kapur. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." ♪ ♪ from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with kristen welker. good sunday morning. president trump heads to the middle east this week on his first official foreign trip of his second term. it comes as the u.s. announced saturday it had brokered a ceasefire between india and pakistan and pressure building for an unconditional cease fire for ukraine where the leaders of germany, poland arrived in kyiv threatening sanctions against

moscow. >> all of us here together with the u.s. are calling putin out. if he's serious about peace, then he has a chance to show it. >> president putin says russia is ready for direct talks with ukraine proposing those talks begin later thisec woo. nbc's keir simmons pressed president putin's spokesperson. >> this is a rejection, isn't it? of president trump's request for a 30-day ceasefire? >> this is a proposal by president putin. >> but it's a proposal to have talks before the ceasefire? it's a proposal to have talks before -- >> in order to find a way. >> the world is watching the growing uncertainty over president trump's trade war. it comes as top u.s. and chinese officials met for the first time this weekend in switzerland in what president trump said he hopes is a total reset for tariff talks. after imposing 145% tariffs on

china, the president posted ahead of the meeting 80% tariff on china seems right, up to step b, in reference to scott bessent. yet in the oval office president trump showed no willingness to ney negotiate lower tariffs with china. >> are you open to pulling back tariffs in order to get china to the negotiating table? >> no. >> president trump announced this week the u.s. and the uk had reached first framework for the a trade deal of his administration. >> the deal includes billions of dollars of increased market access for american exports especially in agriculture, dramatically increasing access for american beef, ethanol and virtually all of the products produced by our great farmers. >> this is going to boost trade between and across our

countries, it will not only protect jobs, but create jobs and opening market access. >> trade deals with other nations are still far from certain as the federal reserve chair jerome powell is warning that president trump's tariffs could lead to higher inflation and job losses. >> if the large increases in tariffs that have been announced are sustained there are likely to generate a rise in inflation, a slowdown in economic growth and an increase in unemployment. >> meanwhile, as the white house faces growing challenges in the courts over its mass deportation plans, stephen miller, a top trump adviser said on friday that it is looking for habeas corpus for undocumented immigrants, due process that allow them to challenge their detentions in court. >> the constitution is clear and that, of course, is the supreme law of the land that the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of innovation.

it's an option we're actively looking at. >> joining me now is the senate majority whip republican senator john barrasso of wyoming. senator barrasso, welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning and happy mother's day to you and all of the mothers watching today. >> senator barrasso, i do appreciate it. i thank you for being here. i do want to start with ukraine. president putin is interested in having direct talks with ukraine later this week and that comes after president trump and european leaders say they want to have an unconditional ceasefire and if not, threaten to impose sanctions. do you believe that president putin's offer is a rejection of president trump's proposal, senator? >>. >> what we are seeing is strength and ledership under president trump and the nations are stepping up to show in the

strength to putin. the killing needs to stop and the 30-day ceasefire is something putin needs to accept. a longstanding peace in that part of the world between ukraine and russia that's verifiable, is going to be good for ukraine, russia, europe and the united states and we wouldn't have been in this position if we had a strong leader previously. joe biden did nothing to deter joe biden from invading and didn't give ukraine the weapons they needed when they needed the most. we have 70 senators who have committed in a bipartisan piece of legislation to really go after russia in a punishing way with devastating sanctions on anybody who buys oil, gas or uranium from russia. 500% tariffs and their number one and number two customers are china and india, but there are

also countries in europe who are buying energy from russia. putin understands strength, not statements. it's time to end the war. >> all right. we'll see how that unfolds. it's obviously, an incredibly dynamic situation. i do want to move on to another dynamic situation, these tariffs. president trump seemed optimistic about the ongoing trade talks with china. he called the tariff talks a, quote, total reset. of course, his treasury secretary leading the talks with his chinese counterpart. you've been supportive of president trump and china. they're a way to stand up to china. senator, how confident are you that the u.s. can get a fair deal with china? >> well, first, was there the british announcement this week and in wyoming where beef is such a big part of the economy, this is a big deal and many other discussions with other countries are going to go into

that. i'm happy to see president trump standing up to china and look, here we are a week after his interview with you and we are actively engaged in negotiations with china. president trump learned in his first term that you can't trust china. china's economy is weak. they need us, they need our marks, but it's been a one-way street. we need to make sure their markets are open to us. what we have seen during covid is we were dangerously dependent on china for critical minerals and critical medicines and never again can we allow that to happen. they've taken more jobs than money from us stealing the trade secrets and they use it to get stronger as a nation to spy on us. i think president trump is doing the right thing, standing up for american workers and american jobs. >> let me ask you about some of the messaging. as you know, tariffs have started to increase prices on

goods including car seats, strollers and work tools, and i want you to listen to a part of my interview with president trump when he talked about what this could mean for supplies. take a listen. >> i'm just saying they don't need to have 30 dolls, they can have three. they don't need 250 pencils. they can have five. >> senator, what do you say to people who hear those words and feel like the president is telling them to ration their goods? >> well, the president, i think, is very effective at using the bully pulpit, and he is using it, i think, to show strength and leadership of america. a week ago you would have never foreseen the discussions going on in switzerland this week between our trade representative, our secretary of treasury and china. we wouldn't have seen the deal with great britain. we wouldn't have seen the call for a ceasefire and putin agreeing to have peace talks.

the president is very effective at using the bully pulpit. i've been traveling around wyoming and been in four communities this weekend and what people are happy at home is that the price of gasoline is 50 cents cheaper than it was at graduation time last year. $10 cheaper to fill up the truck. that's what the american people are concerned about their own pocketbooks. >> i know you were talking about lower prices during the biden administration, you had expressed concerns that price hess increased at the dollar tree and you talked about how important it was to communities in particular and the tariffs could actually push them to raise prices again and that they may not be able to stock some of their goods. what do you say, senator, to the people of wyoming who hear that, who rely on stores like the dollar store and they're worried. i travel around wyoming and people are very happy with the

president and what he's doing to help our economy. tariffs are just one tool as part of our comprehensive economic plan. we're trying to get that passed in the very near future in congress, focused on both the safety and the prosperity of the american people. we are focused on lowering prices, raising wages and bringing jobs back to america and that's our focus right now in congress. >> you took me exactly to my next question because i want to talk about the president's tax bill. in order to get some of the savings needed to pass it, president trump floated the idea of increasing taxes on the highest income earners, those making more than $2.5 million. he also acknowledged the politics are quite thorny. senator, would you support that, increasing taxes on the highest income earners? >> well, i'm a conservative and i don't want to increase taxes on anybody. what you do know is that the democrats if we don't get the

bill passed they will raise taxes by $4 trillion on the american people. it will hit every working family in america with higher taxes and you know, 84% of americans don't like what the democrats are proposing. our goal is to keep more money in people's pockets so they can go to the store, pay their rent, save for retirement and that's what our focus is, lower costs and higher wages. >> senator, just to be very clear, yes or no. you are not ruling out the possibility of increasing taxes on the highest income earners? >> i oppose raising taxes on anyone. do you rule it out, senator? >> do you rule it out? >> we're in the -- i am against raising taxes on anyone. we are working the bill through the process. it's going through the house. we're ironing out the details right now. we're going to get a bill passed and signed by the president that's going to put more money in people's pockets and give them the certainty that taxes

aren't going to go up. >> finally, senator, i want to talk about something that one of president trump's top aides, stephen miller said this week. he said the administration is actively looking at suspending habeas corpus. that's the right to challenge a person's detention by the government. this would be part of the broader effort to speed up their deportation policies. the constitution says that habeas corpus may not be suspended, quote, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion. would you vote to suspend habeas corpus since the power does ultimately lie with congress? >> the president said he will follow the law. the president says if he disagrees with the law that he will appeal those things. the president was elected, and he won every one of the battleground states on promising to secure the border and bring safety back to our communities. that's exactly what he is doing. people do not want to live with

ms-13 gang members in their communities. the democrats lost the election because they opened the borders to 10 million illegal immigrants, including members of criminal cartels, drug dealers, gang members. that's what the election was about, and the president is now seeing judges, district judges, radical district judges using their courts to set national standards on making it harder for the president to deport individuals, criminals, and i stand with the president. >> and yet, senator, to put a fine point on it. i want to know what you would do. would you vote to suspend habeas corpus? ultimately it lies with congress. the president said he would follow the law. he said he has great respect for the supreme court. he expects the attorney general to do the right thing, and i expect that the president will. >> can you give me a yes or no

of what you would do, though? would you suspend habeas corpus? >> i don't believe this will come to congress. what i believe is the president will follow the law. he has said it repeated lead. >> senator barrasso, thank you very much for joining us. i appreciate it and appreciate your mother's day wishes. i hope you have a wonderful day. >> you, too. >> thank you, senator. >> amy klobuchar of minnesota joins me next. perfects. because maintaining this space transports her to this space. the industrial. >> grade product. >> you need call, click or stop by. >> granger. >> for the ones who get it done. >> net credit is here to say yes. >> even when other lenders. >> won't apply. online in minutes and get funds deposited the next business day. >> or sooner. net credit.

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there are these trade talks under way in geneva, switzerland. the u.s. has argued that part of the goal here is to stem the flow of fentanyl. you, in the past, have supported tariffs. if, in pack, at the end of the day these tariffs do accomplish stemming the flow of fentanyl and leveling the playing field with china will you think that the trump tariffs are a success? >> obviously, i'd like to see less fentanyl come into our country, and that should be on the table for discussion, but the way this has been handled from the very beginning, kristen, and the american people know it, chaos is up, corruption is up and costs are up. just ask any mom today on mother's day when they're out trying to get a stroller. they're up 25%. this is real. i listened to my colleague from wyoming who i respect very much, but i'm thinking, let's get real here.

supply chain problems for small businesses. they've lost 300,000 jobs in small businesses in just the first few months of this president's presidency. only 37% of americans think he's handling the economy right, and he has the lowest poll numbers of any president since polling started in the first hundred days. that's because americans don't want to hear all these talking points. they know it's really happening in their lives like a woman named beth benkey when owns a store calls busy baby. she sells online, and her business has been decimated despite being entrepreneur of the year in my state because of how they have handled china, how they have been handling countries all over the world. sure, i'm glad they're talking, but they have assessed 10% to 25% tariffs on our allies. the very people that we would need our 14s friends and allies

order to deal with china. to me, they've been dealing with this upside down. targeted tariffs, yes, but they should be working with trade agreements with canada, mexico, trade agreement with the u.s. to strengthen that instead of these across the board tariff taxes on all americans, and now a baby tax. >> senator, let me ask you about another part of my conversation with, as you say, your colleague, john barrasso. i asked him about stephen miller saying the administration is looking into the possibility of suspending habeas corpus. as i noted, the constitution states that is a right that lies with congress. if anything, what would you do, if the trump administration does move forward to suspend habeas corpus. do you believe you have any recourse? >> i listened to the interview that the good interview you did with the president last week, and i think we'll start with that. when you ask him do you respect the constitution, will you follow the constitution? he said i don't know. i'd have to ask a lawyer.

he takes an oath to preserve and protect and defend the constitution before the american people, and in that constitution there is a right of habeas corpus and as you point out, only congress can reverse it, even conservative commentators have said that. to me, you know what? that isn't really the issue. the issue is stephen miller brings that up on a friday just to throw it out there. you heard the reaction of john barrasso. this is not what they're talking about in congress. why is he doing that? so you ask me about it on a sunday show. he's doing it because they don't want to focus on what's in front of them and they have created havoc in our economy. an economy that was improving and now we have people out there scared to death that they're not going to be able to get their social security because people aren't working there to answer their calls. they're not going to be able to get their medicaid and be able to have their mom in assisted living and yeah, their small

businesses are folding. that's what's happening right now and they don't want to deal with it so they keep throwing out these things just so we all talk about them for four days, and i am, frankly, tired of it because no, they're not going to reverse habeas corpus in the congress. that's not going to happen. >> senator, you talked about the constitution. some of your colleague, senate majority chuck schumer says the united states is in a constitutional crisis right now. you have stopped short of saying that in recent interviews. let me ask you now, do you think the united states is in a constitutional crisis? >> i've made very clear that we are heading closer to one, but the reason we're not in a constitutional crisis like we have been at any moment, other moments in our country, like, say this civil war when the states were actually dividing and seceding. we are not in a constitutional crisis because of the courts of this country. over a hundred of them, including multiple

trump-appointed judges have stood up and said this is unconstitutional. you can't steal people's private data and social security, elon musk. you cannot freeze funds for medical reserve that a democratic and republican congress have already allocated for life-saving cancer trials. that's what's been going on right now. it is a stress test on our constitution, that's for sure. since we have three co-equal branches of government is that the rubber-stamp republicans in congress would actually stand up and say, you know what? these -- this tariff tax of $4,000 per family is not good for my constituents. they could actually take back their power and say no to this president instead of ubberstamping every single thing he does. >> senator, let's get your have.

>> withdrawn earlier, reaction, here's his reaction. >> should you have withdrawn earlier and given someone else a bigger chance? >> i don't think it would have mattered. >> senator, would the party have had a better chance at winning in 2024 had president biden dropped out sooner? >> you know, everything we look at in a rear-view mirror after you lose an election, yes, we would have been served better by a primary, but we are where we are. we're not on the history channel right now, and i believe that president biden can come out and speak and do interviews whenever he want, but i will say this. we're not in the history channel and our republican colleagues, instead of dealing with where we are now, think they're in some kind of a way back zone that they can go in some kind of time -- bring time backwards and blame everything on joe biden. donald trump is the president right no and we have to deal with helping the american people. my party, we want to focus on

lowering costs and finding ways to build more housing and get more affordable energy and working with our entrepreneurs all over the country to seize on this moment that we have with everything from mapping the human genome to ai and expanding small businesses and not retracting them like this senator is doing. i'm not interested in going backward in time, and i'm interested in going forward. >> former president biden did do a series of interviews this week. he was asked whether he was surprised that vice president harris lost. here is his response there. >> i wasn't surprised not because i didn't think the vice president is qualified to be president. she is. she's qualified to be the president of the united states of america. i was surprised because they went the route of the sexist route, this is a woman, she's this, she's that. >> senator, do you worry when

you hear that that the lesson that democrats will take from the 2024 election is that they shouldn't put a woman at the top of the ticket? >> i hope not. you have seen women run other countries quite well, angela merkel comes to mind in germany, and you've also seen women in the u.s., incredible mayors, incredible governors. i look in the senate for democrats in the last election, three of the four races where we beat the presidential ticket were women running in michigan, women running in nevada, women running in wisconsin. i mean, this happens. so i just -- i don't think that's a lesson to learn. i know it's not easy running as a woman. if it was, we could play the game, pick your favorite woman president. you can't. i think the president understands there's been sexism, president biden does, but to me, i just want to move forward, and

we've got incredible candidates across the board running on all levels of government and let's help people instead of what's happening years ago, i want to look at people now and move forward. >> i know how hard it is to run for president, you've done it before. would you rule out running? yes or no, we're out of time. >> i'm third in leadership in the senate and we have a lot to do and making sure people have their medicaid, their social security and taking on these trump tariffs that are hurting the american people and our economy, and not elping small businesses. i want a better america and i don't think we'll get there with this president. >> i don't hear you ruling it out. >> happy mother's day. >> happy mother's day. enjoy the rest of your day, we appreciate you joining us on

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the wifi is booming. xfinity. nation's busiest airports, planes have lost contact with air traffic control multiple times since august. early friday morning, the air welcome back. at one of the nation's busiest airports, planes have lost contact with air traffic control multiple times since august. early friday morning the air traffic controllers lost radar displays for 90 seconds. >> our scope and black again. if you care about this contact the airline and tried to get some pressure for them to fix this stuff. >> the outages are raising concerns about airline safety across ahead of the busy travel season. i sat down with the transportation secretary sean duffy. joining me now is transportation secretary , sean duffy. rad thank you for joining us on meet the press.

>> thank you so much. >> it's wonderful to meet you in person. i have to start with the latest in newark airport where air traffic controllers had a radio and radar outage. this happened early friday morning. this is, of course, on top of losing contact with pilots multiple times since august. mr. secretary, what can you tell us about this latest incident and why does this keep happening? >> the system is old. this is a system that is 25 at best, sometimes 50 years old. the congress and the country have it paid attention to it. they expected to work. now i think the lights are blinking, the sirens are turning and we have to fix this because what you see in newark is going to happen in other places across the country. it has to be fixed. what we are having is some telecom issues. we are also having glitches in our software. the information comes in its overloading some of our lines and the system goes down. i'll tell you specifically in newark we believe we are going to have it up and running in short order. we are going to build a fix that glitch and we feel little more comfortable about our primary blinder gets the data

in on rada flies out of newark. and justr whene -- we saw these and -- as well. these >> is it safe to fly in and out of newark airport right now? >> it is. i fly out of newark all the time. my family flies out of newark. we saw these two incidents, when we have issues, their policies and procedures in place for controllers and pilots. they know what to do. it is not ideal by any stretch but they do implement those procedures and they stay with from each other and we vacate the airspace and, again, we have to fix it. this is an american issue and it's going to be an american congressional party i think in this coming year to get us money to do the three or four year bill that it's going to take to get this completed. >> i want to talk about the -- that you have out this week but before we get there, do you need to scale back flights coming in and out of newark while you are addressing these glitches, these problems, that

are so potentially dangerous? >> 100%. we actually have brought down the number of airplanes that come in and leave newark because our mission is safety. i hate delays. i hate cancellations and i hate families who come up little kids that are sitting there for four hours. been there myself on occasion. it is hard. but i want you to get to where you are traveling and if that means going down flights into newark we slow them down to make sure we can do it safely. we've lost a few controllers who are stressed out by the first cannot activity that we lost last week. we have less control is working in the newark airspace right now approaching the summer travel season. >> so what we want is we want to and we are having these want to glitches in the system. we slow down to keep people safe. that's what we do. >> how long will these delays and cancellations last? as you say, this is incredibly challenging for families, particularly as we are approaching the summer travel season. >> we want to have a number of

flights that if you book your flight you know it's going to fly, right? that is a priority. you don't go to the airport, wait for hours and then get delayed. i think we're going to have in the next several weeks we are going to have this reduced capacity at newark. i'm convening the meeting of all the airlines that suit your -- serve newark. get them to agree on how to reduce capacity. you book, you fly, we are building a new line that goes directly from newark to the philly airspace. he goes from newark to n90 which is where it used to be controlled and then down to philly. that doesn't make sense. were going to have a direct line there. >> when will that be completed? >> it's long distance. we think by the end of the summer it should be completed. >> when you say are going to decrease the number of flights do you have a percentage? 10%? 20%? >> a percent i don't know. it's going to fluctuate too. in the morning and early afternoon we are going to have

more capacity as those international flights come in the afternoon we slow down a little bit more. >> you talked about the fact that this might not be confined to newark. other other airports that you are concerned about right now? >> i'm concerned about the whole airspace, right? the equipment that we use, much of it we can't buy parts for new print have to go on ebay and buy parts if one part goes down your dealing with really old equipment. your dealing with copper wires, not high-speed fiber and, so, this is concerning. is it safe? yes, we have redundancy, multiple redundancies in place to keep you safe when you fly. we should also recognize we are seeing stress on an old network and it's time to fix it. >> bottom line, is it safe to fly in the united states right now? >> we are the safest airspace for sure and traveling by air is way safer than any of the motor transportation which is why i take it. my family takes it but again, that doesn't mean you don't look over the horizon and say, hey, if there's a major outage could that be a risk to life? of course it could be which is why we fix it.

listen, this is what i think is someone should have seen this. there were 80 near misses at the dca airspace. stop the cross traffic. i need to look and say, well, what is the other risk that exists in the airspace and i shouldn't see it -- should see it and should fix it. before you lose life i want to fix it o we preserve life and under source escaped he. >> since you bring up dca reagan airport there was another" reagan national airport with an army black hawk helicopter. this comes after that deadly crash in january. mr. secretary, should all military to helicopters be permanently halted? >> i should not say all. some missions have to fly but should they fly when there is maximum traffic coming in in the dca? no. the president, vice president will fly through the space but what i want to make sure is if someone is flying out of the pentagon, if they are vips, they truly are vips and i think we should know who are the vips that fly.

what training missions happen? it's a busy airspace and we want to limit those helicopters in the air, especially when we are flying during the day. >> absolutely. you did announce this overhaul of outdated air traffic control systems. will anything in your plan address these immediate issues because your plan cost billions of dollars, needs congressional approval and could take years to implement, right? >> the problem we have is you can't -- snap your fingers and fix it. it takes time to build the infrastructure. i swear it's going to be three to four years to build it all but we are going to focus on newark first. you going to start to see newark be far more resilient in the near-term but air traffic controllers, we are 3000 short of air traffic control. i can't snap my fingers and bring in these highly skilled air traffic controllers. the key here is we have to start. we have to begin the process of fixing the system. i'm going to tell you we are going to begin in the months

and years ahead we are going to see real results. >> you take me to my next question because the mandatory retirement age for air traffic controllers is actually 56 years old but as you are indicating it could take years to trade an air raffic controller. will you ask congress to raise the mandatory retirement age? >> congress has given me the authority to extend the retirement age for air traffic controller 56 year mandatorys retirement. tot i've done is said, not the problem. , >> will you do it though? >> 100%. i've already told union i will do that. air traffic controllers after 25 years of service can retire. many of them retire at 50 years old well before the 56 year mandatory retirement. these are the best controllers we have in the airspace.

let's give them a bonus. i'm going to give them a 20% up front bonus to stay in the job. don't retire. keep serving your country. these are the best guys. we can keep more of those experienced air traffic controllers from retiring and we're supercharging more young people into our academy and by the way these are not overnight fixes. it's going to take them one to three years to get trained up. as we go one, two years, older guys on the job, younger guys coming in, men and women, and we can make about 3000 person difference. >> let me ask you, as you're dealing with this crisis, elon musk and does abs you know have been making cuts at the faa and i think a lot of people are wondering have these cuts made the situation worse? have they increased the challenges and the potential safety concerns? >> that's a great question. in the safety mission of the faa like air traffic controllers no one was cut. we actually have staff that we have hired more air traffic controllers during this time. there were probationary workers that were let go. those employees who were there less than a year and again we are excluding the safety positions. most of them have come back. the faa has 46,000 employees

and if you lost 35 will hear tht sounds a little bit chaotic. i guess the bottom line is yeah. did elon0 muskis is ask affecting our safety mission? there's a lot of things the faa does but for a safety is key. we've tamed all those safety positions. >> some were fired, some were brought back, people hear that and say it sounds chaotic. the bottom line is did elon musk ask you to cut air traffic controllers directly? >> listen, we were having a conversation about who'd we preserve and i wanted in those employees to preserve air traffic controllers. we went back and forth and elon agreed, the president agreed of course you want to keep air traffic controllers. we're trying to hire more of them but i think the key is in your government be more efficient? we had a massive expansion of government. you can actually be more efficient and still accomplish the mission of safety which is i think what we can do and we are doing that. >> did elon musk initially ask you to cut air traffic controllers and did you dispute that?

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happening in israel, they're kind of stuck and what we've learned and the president is not going to israel on this trip is that the president and the prime minister netanyahu have had tensions over the way forward on gaza, on iran. so while the president will be in the middle east touting all of these that he's delivering comingly for the american people, he's struggling more to deliver on these bigger challenges. it will create such a fascinating backdrop to that, carol lee. the other backdrop to that trip, sahil is what the admin floated in the end of the week. steve know miller stephen miller is they're considering suspending habeas corpus and you heard senator barrasso say i don't think that will ever come to congress. what do you think? >> a mostly muted reaction by republicans. obviously, there's a broad support for the crackdown, senator barrasso is stepping down from where he stands. i find it particularly striking that this white house is almost

treating congress like it doesn't matter because there's a century of case law. he ended up, lincoln ended up asking congress to do it and since then it's been very much a settled issue. i think trump not asking for permission is notable and part and parcel in the way he operates and he doesn't ask for approval and he takes the authorities unless someone stops him. >> this is what we're seeing with president trump taking all of these unilateral moves and here again, floating the idea of suspending habeas corpus. >> you heard that in senator barrasso's answer. in many ways those first hundred daysa you said in his interview, it is about the courts and congress and what happens there. a lot of republicans will pivot back on what they will do on immigration and the more successful policies they can get behind and it's a warning shot

against the courts and the district court judges barrasso talked about in his answer. >> the democrats are watching this closely. senator klobuchar saying we're not quite at a constitutional crisis yet. >> i guess the substance of this, habeas corpus is the most safe line of protection of individual liberty against the overreaching of a state. just the idea that the president is floating violating habeas corpus, i'm frankly shocked there aren't republicans lining up to say that is completely wrong. it's just another demonstration of putting politics above the constitution, and i think it's, you know, the courts will, and he will be stopped and we should be outraged at him talking about at constitutional violation like this. >> all of this is happening as democrats are trying to figure out how to move forward and i

think it was notable to hear senator klobuchar's reaction to hear from him. >> i think the party would be better served. a lot of democrats are not happy that he's ree merging and there's still frustration how he handled 2024 and from the president's perspective, he's being attacked almost daily by president trump and there are accusations about him having a mental decline while in office. he's decided he will go out there and defend himself and defend his record and at the first time he's been out of politics and he wants in on the conversation. >> there is a good argument and a bad argument that president biden can make in terms of his re-emergence. the good argument is about inflation and cost. trump did oversell when he blamed biden entirely for costs. trump said he would bring it down on day one. president biden can make that point, you make the right decision to run for reelection

and he very much could have won, there's no polling to suggest he will run. all of the polling suggests he would have gotten clobbered and we'll hear it more and more from democrats who are angry about the fact that they think he misled of having another four years and he could do another campaign. >> the biden administration and how do you see this and does sahil have a point there. >> do you see this bifurcation? i do think a lot democrats look at donald trump who every day attacks the president and so i think if he's talking about the record and how we had a stable economy in january and there seems to be a lot of chaos since, i think that's a good place for president biden to be. these comments in the last week does feel to democrats like re-litigating the november election and who could have won and who couldn't have won and

our parents are fighting. donald trump and a in a majority of democrats' perspective, he is taking millions away from medicaid cuts and the fight in front of us is important. the future of the democratic party is actually in the future and that's how most democrats see it. >> i spoke to one of the republicans who said let him keep talking. >> let's go. i don't think democrats are prepared for what is about to hit them. the first book drops in nine days, excerpts as early as this week. it reminds me of what our party went through with the iraq war. you have to first acknowledge it. voters were well ahead of the media, democrats and elites on whether biden's age was an issue before the june debate, and i don't think they take kindly to being deceived for creative political experiences and i think they'll have to reckon with that before we get to 2028. >> all right, guys.

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