you and your heroes like that ralph nader, e grateful for ralph nader. do you realize that before 1968 there were hardly any cars recalled for being defective, but in 1972 there were nearly 8 million cars recalled. and do you realize that in 1974... who cares? nader cares, arch. and you should too. you drive a cab part-time. ralph nader may save your life someday. how? by making people scared to ride with me? the only person that's deflective is nader. nader ain't doing the country no good. oh, oh, oh. i get it. what's good for general motors is good for the country. you're damn right. both: and ralph nader ain't no good for general motors! no! here you are, archie. are you feeling anything yet? what? i mean, are the mushrooms getting to you? what, are you helping? no! i'm feeling fine. oh, that's good. not necessarily, ma. if he's got botulism, the symptoms might not show for hours. if i got what? botulism. get out of here. nobody ever went crazy eating mushrooms. arch, "botulism" means "food poisoning," and i think we ought to check those mushrooms. oh,

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kosher, as long as no money or anything else of value trades hands. >> a lot of talk about how ralph nader might do -- >> reporter: the so-called nader effect, when just a few votes for a third-party candidate can make a difference, had already happened. >> let's talk about that extremely tight 2000 election and how vote-swapping could have impacted the race. in florida only 537 votes separate al gore and george bush in the state of florida. if those 537 voters swapped their vote with people in a safe blue state, al gore could have possibly won florida and then the presidency. >> reporter: not wanting to repeat the past has brought new jerseyen joel and floridian carrington together. joel, a hillary supporter, is writing in bernie sanders for carrington. in turn, she votes for clinton. >> it seemed like it would give to be heard. but in a different state. and at the same time prevent trump from taking florida. >> reporter: the approach relies on the honor code and a little investigative work. >> i looked at joel's facebook. i saw that he was a real person. i saw he had anti-trump posts. he

with us now, ralph nader.ou always hear this as independent libertarian, whatever you want to call nontraditional candidates that they are spoilers. you tip the election for george bush. when you tell people when jill stein and gary johnson here much the same? >> that's total amount is. they couldn't eat a bumbling governor from texas who had a terrible record. that is what it's all about. historically, neil, historically third parties for first on the ballot against slavery for women's right to vote, regulation railroads and banks are attacking farmers for helping to organize industrial labor in the 20th century third parties on the ballot were the first for a progressive tax nation. 40 hour week social security, medicare consumer protection. they never won a national election. that is their value. they push a two-party duopoly that doesn't like competition in the right direction. that's why the two parties presented. neil: regardless of the outcome and it's always risky but if trump loses there's going to be

would you say that, ralph nader? mr.er: we would like to see that happen, but it doesn't happen without full-time organizers. look at any movement in our country's history. rights movement, full-time organizers in the field, women's rights movement. we never ask that question. when you say why don't we have all, half as for expensive as it is now, look at canada. aren't a dozenre full-time people pushing for it. when the pentagon isn't audited, half of the government's operating budget is going crazy redundancy,ion and how many are around the country trying to get the audit of the pentagon? zero. deploy why we have to into the congressional districts and say, look, it is congress on the table here. we will not deal with the executive branch unless you deal with congress. the taxing power and the war power. that is where the emphasis will be. how many organizers can you field? always the question that should be asked. >> on another topic, if hillary clinton does win, she has promised to move forward on copperheads of immi

maryland state senator proposed vote swapping back in 2000 to help green party candidate ralph nader get enough of the popular vote without taking votes from al gore. vote swapping websites popped up, but they were quickly called into question. finally in 2007, it was decided that vote trading is totally kosher as long as no money or anything else of value trades hands. can vote swapping really affect the outcome of the election? >> we have to remember it's very small percentage of the public that engage in this voting behavior, but if the race is as tight as polls show, vote swapping and third party voters could impact this election. >> reporter: but if this is app indicator, democracy only continue to collide. >> i think it's democracy at its best. it is a complex way to work it out when you feel options are limited. >> reporter: if hillary clinton wins arizona by one vote, we're going an interview. >> a lot of people will be seeing me. >> reporter: for nightline, new york. >> it is, though, an interesting concept. i lived in d.c., registered in d.c. there's not much competition vo

remember ralph nader in 2000. >> no question about that at all. right now it's hard to say exactly who they would help or who they would hurt. our colleagues over at fivethirtyeight took a look and found that a majority of pollsters have jill stein and gary johnson taking away from hillary clinton. but just by about a percent. obviously in a close race, george, in a close state that can make all the difference in evan mcmullin, the third party conservative candidate out of utah, and it looks like he could actually win the state. >> there's a long history with third party candidates in presidential races. some people forget about teddy roosevelt. he even tried that. what's the most important ones you think going back? >> one of the big ones was of course, ross point, was actually leading in the polls in the 1992 presidential election, leading bill clinton and george h.w. bush. of course, he dropped out of the race. he got back in, ended up winning i think it was 19% of the vote but, robin, they always took as a article of faith they lost because of

enough, ralph nader won votes in florida to cost out for the presidency. november 8 is not just about the white house. with a future in congress also in the balance, especially the senate. although 435 seats in the house are a for grabs, the republicans are likely to keep their majority there. in the senate, 34 seats out of 100 are being contested, making it a closer race. 24 of those senators facing election are republicans, handing an advantage to the democrats. with their outgoing majority -26, many things -- voters will also validate over 100 ballot initiatives nationwide, voting to decriminalize marijuana, or raising the minimum wage. in over a dozen states electors will choose their governor. the new president is not sworn in until january 20. thomas: for more on the white house race, i am joined by nickel back erin -- by nicole backaran. leadon might have a narrow currently, but the polls are still tight. this is a campaign that has split america down the middle, hasn't it? >> very much so. the whole atmosphere in the country is very divided. if you

we noted how things would have been simpler if ralph nader hadn't campaigned for and won 92,000 voteshe sunshine state. then al gore would have won florida, won in the electoral college, won the ball game. so let's look at the impact of the third party candidate this time around. look at the states that made the difference -- florida with 29 loer electoral votes, michigan with 16, wisconsin with 10. that's 75 electoral votes in all and in every one of these states the number of people who voted for third party candidate gary johnson well exceeded the difference between trump and hillary. every one of these states saw clinton losing to trump by far less than votes to johnson. i do not know why people people this way. it's their right, but why is it their choice? do think care for who affects the outcome? if not, the vote for a third party candidate makes sense. but if they care how their choice of whom to vote for affects the final outcome why don't they vote for the person they intend to be president. it would spare this country in picking a president in some part through unintended c

depending on where those votes came from, a lot of democrats may be looking at gary johnson and seeing ralph nader there. >> yep. not a pretty picture for them. >> well, it is what it is. people go into this eyes wide open. if you vote for somebody who can't vote for president, it means that you don't care who wins for president. >> that's what i think. and when you talk to people like that and saying, why are you letting the vote go against the person you normally support, they act like you're not really taking sides. some kind of neutrality. >> switzerland. >> and even switzerland was a pro-german neutrality. you really do take sides. what side are you on is a pretty good question. the union guys always ask that, what side are you on? and people don't like making decisions because then you're responsible for who wins and people don't want that responsibility. oh, there's flaws with hillary, not sure i like her, all right, make a decision. some of the republicans, if this is what happens tonight, went home and said, i care more about a conservative supreme court than i care about a guy with probl

vote trading web sites sought to get battleground state supporters of then-green party nominee ralph naderwap their votes with al gore supporters in safe states. but you're encouraging voters, encouraging people to trade votes from people who live across the country from each other. i mean, is that really the way our democracy is supposed to work? >> absolutely. in a national election where the outcome affects us all exactly the same? this is a national election. just because we have an electoral college system that was designed when we were still sending mail by pony doesn't mean that we can't upgrade our own expression of preference. we have the technology that allows people to communicate by pushing a button on something they carry around in their pocket. why wouldn't we be taking advantage of that? >> reporter: last weekend, sadiq khan and anlin wang decided to meet in person and mail their absentee ballots together, but we won't know what difference, if any, these vote swappers will have until election day. >> stewart: the almost three- week-old iraqi offensive to retake mosul from is

he collaborated with green party presidential candidate ralph nader on multiple books. cranston low died thursday at the age of 72. -- clarence ditlow died thursday at the age of and those are some 72. of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. where broadcasting from marrakesh, morocco, here at the u.n. climate summit. we will soon ring you voices of protest from the front lines in new york. meanwhile, the anti-defamation league and the southern poverty law center are slamming president-elect donald trump for naming stephen bannon to become his chief strategist. bannon is the former head of the right-wing outlet news outlet breitbart media. he took over as trump's campaign manager in august. adl ceo jonathan greenblatt said -- "it is a sad day when a man who presided over the premier website of the 'alt-right' -- a loose-knit group of white nationalists and unabashed anti-semites and racists -- is slated to be a senior staff member in the 'people's house." the southern poverty law center accused bannon of beco

is he the ralph nader of this year? this election? >> i think it is quite possible. what we thought is that young people would stay in the obama coalition and it is possible a number of those migrated to gary johnson. that's right. >> chris: with these elections people are invested with their time, energy, ideologies. the sun came up today. the economy is still cranking. the market rebounded after the future selloff at 1805l. things be okay for the democrats out there that needs a pat on the back. >> the sun comes up tomorrow that's one of the things about the election. after the agitation of the election and bumps and bruises we heal over time and come back together as a nation. it is remarkable. >> denise: it is. the millennials. surprisingly they didn't all go for hillary the way the pundits thought. what happened? >> i think sometimes pundits make a mistake in thinking once there's a coalition the coalition is set forever and made that mistake with the young people. people's opinions and preferences change and many cases they changed away from the democratic john

who 80 or 90% of them say -- >> but the thing about those voters, i remember litigating this with ralph nader in 2000. those voters wouldn't have voted for al gore. they weren't there like -- there's this idea that that's a vote that should be in this column and isn't. it doesn't strike me as -- >> it is, but when you look at her margins -- she won all the groups that barack obama won particularly those younger sort of ascending america but she won them by smaller margins, she's three or four points off ins all those younger vote margins. donald trump did expand the republican party, he didn't expand the republican brand yesterday evening, but those young voters who say they were rejecting both of them and they in fact did that, we've got to do more to sort of reach those votes. i loved your last person on your panel here because she's absolutely right, right? the democratic party looks more like her than it does right now a lot of the people who are running the democratic party. and i've got to tell you this, i don't want to go -- and a lot of friends that i talk to -- i don't want to go int

he's just saying it because he doesn't want to end up being treated like ralph nader. i don't think he believes hillary clinton will be a good president. >> he's made it evidently clear that hillary clinton is the right choice. over the summer i went fully behind hillary and i'm really excited for her as a candidate, but also excited that bernie is supporting her as well. >> when they bring bernie sanders out to the state, they're hoping to bring the young people out and to inspire in them confidence that, what hillary clinton says actually does align with what bernie sanders said. >> elizabeth, some of the other issues coming out with the wikileaks releases we've seen have to do with her comments to wall street banks about regulation, about trade and showing a much more open tone to those issues than she has on the campaign trail, especially with debating bernie sanders. so that continues to be an issue to try to convince those voters to come out and show up and turn this state from where it's polling right now to one that would help to block any further path that don

in presidential cycle when she had highest profile campaign of any green party candidate since ralph naderl of sudden she can raise five million dollars in less than a week. sandra: stop upsetting her. she is losing her voice. >> i agree. kennedy: i may get the vapors. this is not just about jill stein. she is being used by democrats who don't want to get their hands dirty. they want hillary clinton shielded. they're conveniently say we were going to ask for a recount, now you're talking about one i guess we'll get in on the action. a little too pat and smells fishier than a carp in a car strung in august. >> i can't disagree with that. dagen: point out not only the clinton campaign said they don't find any actionable evidence of vote hacking but the obama administration said that more than once over the weekend. >> sure. dagen: they said the elections were free and fair from a cybersecurity perspective. free of interference regarding malicious cyber activity. that whole russian hacking ruse that they rolled out during the dnc isn't playing out but you still have them challenging this they

as in florida in 2000 when ralph nader won 95 votes. but that is an impact, as well. but however it was, the modeling, the assumptions about latino registration and turnout did not work and he outperformed in other yareyares and she lost rust belt. >> here's another interesting point. when did people decide. the exit polls showed that people decided, the people who voted for trump and for hillary decided much earlier than we thought. 60% decided before september, before the "access hollywood" tape, before the comey letters that ping-ponging back and forth. they made their decisions a long time ago and stuck with them. >> look, we do talk about this in terms of -- by the time you get to the debates, which we think are big movers, that the electorate has settled in. and, again, i think hillary clinton is such a known commodity in politics. so, people were able to render a judgment about her. >> but i want to take the under on this one because if 8% decided in the last week, which is what that number -- >> that's enough to sway it. let's not mistake it. these margins in

. >> she a ralph nader of 2016.least he had the decency not to cash in on depriving somebody else of the presidency. >> there is no shame. >> topic number two. there is there a double standard in first lady fashions? first lady disanner designing fashions for first lady michelle obama mall refuses. says: >> i'm assuming you are not an expert in first lady fashion so i will go to lisa next. >> who cares? if she doesn't want to dress the first lady so be it. that's her right as a business owner. obviously as a business woman melania trump's outfit choices throughout the campaign cycle she will be fine. who cares if she doesn't want to dress her, who cares. >> there are going to be plenty of people willing to step into this. also melania trump coming from the fashion industry, one thing that michelle obama done has really highlighted a bunch of up and coming american designers and i wouldn't be surprised if melania does the same. >> charles, i will let you get to the double standard component of this. i remember the in

nevada, new hampshire, colorado, states where johnson has polled relatively high, could we see a ralph nader effect? >> no. he's not pulling any numbers away from them that will make a huge difference. >> but 3% is the spread between clinton and trump in some of these states? >> i don't see anyone making a tremendous difference. i think what we're going to see in the next under 48 hours is the undecideds, republicans coming home, but we're also seeing signs of democrats switching over to donald trump. the fbi e-mail problems with james comey have had an impact on hillary clinton. >> perhaps, no question in the early voting her example has admitted that, but now comey says never mind. >> right, but i think we're going to see based on the numbers we've seen over the last few weeks in a lot of key battle ground states, nevada one, a lot of these states hillary had double dilkt leads two weeks. now it's it's single digits. the momentum is in donald trump's favor. he's peaking at the right time. >> the nevada early voting numbers don't show that for him. the nevada early voting numbers are strong

amy: many people say ralph nader is at a high percentage point he is in the polls because you have beennsible for taking the democratic party to the right. what do you say to listeners for listening around the area right now? >> i am glad you asked that. this is the last question i have time for. what is the measure of taking the democratic party to the right? it would cut the welfare rolls in half? poverty is at a 20 year low? child poverty has been cut by one third in our administration? the incomes of average americans has gone up 15% after inflation? that poverty among seniors has gone below 10% for the first time in american history? that we have the lowest african-american, lowest latino unemployment rate in the history of the country? increase in a 500% the number of minority kids taking advanced placement tests? that the schools in this country, that the test scores among since we record all of the schools have basic standards, test scores among african-americans and other minorities have gone up steadily? amy: can i say -- >> let me finish. you started this, every question you

we all noted how things would have been simpler if ralph nader wouldn't have campaigned.n the electoral college, won the ball game. let's look at the impact of the third-party candidate this time around. look at the states that made the difference this time. florida with its 29 electoral votes, pennsylvania with its 20, michigan with 16, wisconsin with 10. that's 75 electoral votes in all. in every one of these states, the number of people who voted for third-party candidate gary johnson well exceeded the difference between trump and hillary. every one of these states saw clinton losing to trump by far less than the vote that went to johnson. a candidate who had no real chance of winning. i do not know why people vote this way. this clearly is the right, clearly their right. why is it their choice? do they care out their vote, their choice of whom to vote for affects the outcome? if not, then the vote for a third-party candidate makes perfect sense. but if they do care how their choice of whom to vote for affects the final outcome, why don't they get serious and simply an